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Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:11 pm
by mtdev
Left click to select a base. Left click again to select attacking units and attack a base. Right click to translate (center) screen. Upgrading defense and offense works.

Game has potential to be fun (says me :P) but is kind of a grind right now. It is pretty easy to get into a stalemate or almost stalemate situation. If you have time to check it out and share any ideas, I would appreciate it.

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4/3 - Added Zoom from .8 -> 1.5
4/3 - Added Scrolling
4/4 - Added Troop Movement from base to base and fixed UI bug. Game seems to be getting harder. :vamp:
4/7 - Many updates. Attack and movement system sends 10 ship bursts instead of all at once. 'P' to pause / unpause. Only view your unit counts, only see attacks that are visible to your bases. Upgrades allowed once per base now. more...

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:50 pm
by Nixola
It looks nice! I have a couple of UI suggestions and one (possibly broken) gameplay suggestion.
1) Zoom.
2) Smooth scrolling, with WASD/arrows/mouse/touch/whatever.
3) The ability to send units from one of your bases to another base already owned by you - I'd like to be able to prevent the enemy from conquering a base instead of having to get it back. It may be broken as it allows one to build a LOT of power safely near the capitol and transfer a LOT of units to where the battle actually is.

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:07 pm
by bladum

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:37 pm
by mtdev
Nixola -

Thank you! Great suggestions. Hadn't even considered zoom or scrolling. That will be great.

For #3, my son was really hammering me for that :). I have been resisting because the (loosely called) AI will need to be improved and I was being lazy but this puts it over the top for me.

Will be working on all of these suggestions shortly. Thank you for your time.

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:59 pm
by mtdev
Hadn't seen that one before but is pretty cool. Is that a game you made? Can I see the love file? :cool:

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:03 pm
by Nixola
Hey! Another suggestion. In case you wander off too far, some button (either on the keyboard or a clickable one) that resets your camera centering it on your capitol would be neat.
Also, as a side note, please don't double post: you can edit your posts after you submit them.

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:09 pm
by bladum
yes its my game, i tried to find some people to work on it here on the forum, but i failed to get some attention

its galcon on steroids, you have 8 upgrades of the planet that change how it produce ships / impact your economy. If you get deeper in the video you will find interesting tactics :)

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:19 pm
by TheOddByte
Suggestions
- Display the amount of upgrades under the upgrade buttons when a node is selected
- If the mouse goes outside the window it will stop scrolling.( found this annoying )
- Set "role" for node, such as "Harvester" or "Tower" which would give greater rewards for production/defense upgrades.

Issues I found
- When an enemy or the player sends resources to a node and it does the fading and you scroll at the same time the position of that node gets incorrect.

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:48 am
by mtdev
Thank you for the suggestions.
- Display the amount of upgrades under the upgrade buttons when a node is selected
Do you mean how much they cost? That could be helpful, I think
- If the mouse goes outside the window it will stop scrolling.( found this annoying )
I agree and will change the behavior to "release" the pointer after it leaves the window by a few pixels
- Set "role" for node, such as "Harvester" or "Tower" which would give greater rewards for production/defense upgrades.
I see a lot of possibilities and challenges with assigning roles / rewards to nodes. Still pondering just how to go about it.

Re: Some Circle Game. Ideas to make it better?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:37 am
by TheOddByte
Do you mean how much they cost? That could be helpful, I think
No, I mean that it will show the amount of upgrades, like you have 10x defense upgrades for example. The UI gets cluttery when displaying the upgrades next to a node if you have a lot of upgrades.
I see a lot of possibilities and challenges with assigning roles / rewards to nodes. Still pondering just how to go about it.
Just throwing you some ideas

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Harvester[ 500 resources ]
    * Base production +30%
    * Defense upgrades decrease with 5-10%( the ones you buy and the ones you already own )
    * Production upgrades increase with 10-15%( works same as above )
    
Tower[ 500 resources ]
    * Base defense +30%
    * Production upgrades decrease with 5-10%
    * Defense upgrades increase with 10-15%
    
Footsoldier[ 500 resources ]
    * Base defense +15%
    * Movement speed +20%
    * Production upgrades decrease with 15-10%
    
Kamikaze[ 800 resources ]
    * Base resources 50
    * Movement speed +40%
    * Can't produce units
    * Can't upgrade defense
    * Deals 2-3x the amount of damage when sent to an enemy and dies.