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What i need is probably easy, but i'm not that experienced with lua yet and can't seem to figure it out. I want to be able to spawn any number of entities (they're going to be apples), wether each is red or green should be random, and I need to be able to destroy them individually. I've gathered that I will probably need to create a class for this, but I've looked around at classes in lua and have gotten utterly confused. One of the main things that I can't seem to grasp is how to draw an undetermined number of entities. I originally just tried using a table for this but quickly ran into problems with indexing the correct ones when drawing or destroying.

By the way, I've been looking through Envy and the Wrath game to figure out how its done in there, so far I don't get it. Is anyone able to break this down nice and simple for me? Thanks.

As someone who is progressively learning LUA and messing with LÖVE constantly i feel as though i am able to teach others of what ive learned so far

You are looking to create entities that you can modify on the fly

The way i would do it (and it may not be the best way) would be to create a table to throw all of your entities into so then you have sort of a database or an array which is essentially what tables are.

Example time..

You create a table
a table can have numerous pieces of data in them, so lets start adding to the table
So now what we have done is added data to the apples table, in the form of color, size and if it is eaten or not (true/false)
These are variables within the table which we can now access when the need arises. I will explain how to access them after i have explained a bit more about the structure of tables

Table indexes are pretty much unique and it would probably be best to do them incrementally.
For instance:
So, As can see we keep changing the index between [ ] and it increases each time for a new entity ( apple[x] where x is the next incremented index )
Now that we have data in the apples table, We should probably start thinking about how to access these apples individually and also how to loop and display or modify them.

Say now, we wanted to find out what apple number 3's color is (bearing in mind table indexes start at 0, So apple number 3 would technically be number 2, because we counted the 0 as 1 ) we would access the apples table like so
Now that you have accessed the color of apple number 3 and copied it into a variable you can now display or use that data wherever you like.

Lets move onto modifying a table.

Say we want to modify apple number 4's eaten status
This is as simple as tables gets

As for being able to manage a table in terms of having a large quantity of apples. You would start to use loops

An example loop:
The last piece of code would produce something like so on-screen:

Apple 0 is red and is small and it is false that it has been eaten
Apple 1 is green and is small and it is false that it has been eaten
Apple 2 is green and is big and it is false that it has been eaten
Apple 3 is red and is small and it is true that it has been eaten

You mentioned that you would like to do an undetermined amount of entities
Take a look at the next piece of code based on the knowledge that you have seen above:
Now depending on what result comes from math.random(0, 200) you could have a table with anywhere between 0 and 200 indexes and also a random outcome of red / green apples each time

You would normally do the table generating once, in the load() function, and not the draw() or update() functions, because this would obviously keep resetting your table values with different results each time the code is parsed

As an example of what the table would contain would look like this due to randomness.

apples[0] = { color="red" }
apples[1] = { color="green" }
apples[2] = { color="red" }
apples[3] = { color="red" }
apples[4] = { color="green" }
apples[5] = { color="red" }
apples[6] = { color="green" }
....
Skip a few for typings sake..
....
apples[28] = { color="red" }
apples[29] = { color="red" }
apples[30] = { color="green" }
apples[31] = { color="red" }

I hope this gives you an insight on how tables work, but again this is partly some of my methodology and how i sometimes do things, even though it might not be the most efficient or best way, Its what i've come to know as being DIY for me

If theres anything that you want me to clarify or be more clear on, then just ask

PHew....Im done!

p.s - If you need a working example, I could provide one too if needs be

@mikembley:
I haven't read your complete post, but I noticed some mistakes:
Table indexes start at 1, not at 0, that's true for arrays, not for lua tables.
Your way is.. messy, at least, it's better to use table.insert, table.remove and pairs.

@Matkins:
Sorry, but I can't give you code examples of what I said above right now, I don't have the time.

Here's my reply: Apples.

I knew i would get slammed for the table indexes Its just im used to using PHP and i can never remember

But the main part of the stuff above is to show an example whether or not it looks good, I just find it easier to show people how tables are pretty much like arrays and then they can move on to table.insert, remove, pairs and do it the clean way.

Thanks for your efforts mikembly, but i'm not sure if tables are going to work for me. Because I would idealy like to remove the destroyed apples from the table, so the table wont end up being astronomical if run for a long time. But say I have a table of 10 apples and i remove apple 7; then apple 8 becomes 7, 9 becomes 8 and 10 becomes 9. And that totally screws up my program, i end up trying to destroy one apple and seeing a different one vanish, and eventually i end up with errors. Can anyone tell me the best way to do something like this? Or at least point me in the right direction? Thanks.

You can always just nil them: apples[7] = nil
Of course, you can't use general for loops anymore. In the example above, using general for loops will mean that apples[8], apples[9] and apples[10] will be ignored. Then you need to set apples.n = 10 and use "for i=1,apples.n do" instead of "for i,apple in ipairs(apples) do", but I wouldn't recommend that: using table.remove is much cleaner. How will that screw up your program? Do you keep references to apple indexes or something?

Robin wrote:You can always just nil them: apples[7] = nil
Of course, you can't use general for loops anymore. In the example above, using general for loops will mean that apples[8], apples[9] and apples[10] will be ignored. Then you need to set apples.n = 10 and use "for i=1,apples.n do" instead of "for i,apple in ipairs(apples) do", but I wouldn't recommend that: using table.remove is much cleaner. How will that screw up your program? Do you keep references to apple indexes or something?

The reason why it screwed up my program:
I want the apples to be destroyed when they collide with a particular object. The only way I could think of doing this is like this:
So as you can see, I am using the index of each apple as it's shapeData in order to determine which apple has collided with the object. And i'm sure it's clear to you why this doesn't work, it's clear to me also but i can't figure out how to do it right.

You can assign unique values, and use those unique values to determine which apple has the collision. (by a loop) Maybe there's some cleaner/faster way, but that works.

For example, using tables as keys: an empty table always creates a new, unique object. Even if you remove some of the appels, the key stays the same for each apple.