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Posted: **Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:14 pm**

WITCHAVEN THE ROGUELIKE.

LAST VERSION RELEASED = 0.9 BETA 5
WARNING: SAVEGAMES PREVIOUS TO BETA 5 ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH BETA 5 AND WILL PROBABLY CRASH THE GAME

Access download page with changelog, and news here:

http://asciirealm.blogspot.com.es

Direct link to download files:

https://www.box.com/s/7ek816g8n7jsywcxja2e

Additional download links that you will löve:

Direct link to the 0.9b5 .love attachement (Recommended)
Direct link to the 0.9b4 .love attachement
Direct link to the 0.9b3 .love attachement
Direct link to the 0.9b2 .love attachement (Obsolete)
Direct link to the 0.9b1 .love attachement (Obsolete)

Please, let the bug reports and feature request to flow.
Remember that it is still a beta version and some features are still unimplemented, although the game is 100% playable, you can win the game... or die ^_^

Enjoy.

Posted: **Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:23 pm**

Hi there!

I could not download the file, probably because of a download limit of some sort. Will try it later.

In the meantime, in your page you say that the user needs

To play it you need a LUA interpreter that is 100% compatible with LUA 5.1, and LÖVE engine

Are you certain about this? I ask because LÖVE comes with its own version of Lua, you normally don't need to install a separate one. (Also, its Lua, not LUA)

Posted: **Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:48 pm**

Nice to see in last times "classic" roguelikes appear in LOVE. I didn't have the time to test it much but I liked what I saw. One (big) complain only for now: the "free" key control could be somewhat dangerous. People need to have very careful, don't relax and make wrong moves. Well because that could be the same as our death in the game. So a love.keypressed type of control option would be good. And congratulations! Hope see improvements and further development on this.

BTW Instead of your love.timer.sleep(0.045) you could use love.keyboard.setKeyRepeat
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.keyboard.setKeyRepeat

Another problem:

1 to 5 [in numeric keyboard] Uses the specified potion

Sadly a lot of notebooks/portables don't have numeric keyboard and you already use numeric keys for weapons. I'm playing with a regular desktop Mac and as many without extra numeric keys so can't use potions.

Posted: **Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:46 am**

I tried it many times, I couldn't download it.
I can't even get connected to opendrive.com.
Can't just post the *.love here ?

Posted: **Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:19 am**

Thanks all for your input.

kikito wrote:Hi there!

I could not download the file, probably because of a download limit of some sort. Will try it later.

In the meantime, in your page you say that the user needs

This is absolutely weird.

Ok, I uploaded all files to another upload server.

The new links are in the webpage, try them, and if you have any problem, please let me know.

kikito wrote:
To play it you need a LUA interpreter that is 100% compatible with LUA 5.1, and LÖVE engine
Are you certain about this? I ask because LÖVE comes with its own version of Lua, you normally don't need to install a separate one. (Also, its Lua, not LUA)

Ok, I deleted that phrase from the description. I thought I need some Lua interpreter to run LÖVE.

Thanks for the tip.

coffee wrote:Nice to see in last times "classic" roguelikes appear in LOVE. I didn't have the time to test it much but I liked what I saw. One (big) complain only for now: the "free" key control could be somewhat dangerous. People need to have very careful, don't relax and make wrong moves. Well because that could be the same as our death in the game. So a love.keypressed type of control option would be good. And congratulations! Hope see improvements and further development on this.

Thanks for feedback.

Yes, it could be dangerous. But the problem of making the movement in love.keypressed is that moving large corridors or places could be a bit tedious and the player would need to press the key to move a lot of times. So I decided the free movement could be better or more comfortable for moving.
But depending on what the community says, I may change it :-)

coffee wrote: BTW Instead of your love.timer.sleep(0.045) you could use love.keyboard.setKeyRepeat
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.keyboard.setKeyRepeat

In fact, I used the love.timer.sleep for reducing the CPU time consumption, but I don't know if it is necessare or if LÖVE itself controls this. Usually, in other languages, such as FreeBasic, it is necessary to set this so the CPU is not used completely.

coffee wrote: Another problem:
1 to 5 [in numeric keyboard] Uses the specified potion
Sadly a lot of notebooks/portables don't have numeric keyboard and you already use numeric keys for weapons. I'm playing with a regular desktop Mac and as many without extra numeric keys so can't use potions.

BTW only healing potions are implemented, although the next release I will try to finish them all.
I also thought about laptops with num. keyboard. I guess what keys could be used instead of them, not being normal numbers or function keys, that are already taken. Maybe QWERTY, but right now i'm not sure if all those keys are free.

I will definitely look into this.

Roland_Yonaba wrote:I tried it many times, I couldn't download it.
I can't even get connected to opendrive.com.
Can't just post the *.love here ?

I changed the links in the webpage.

Also I post the .love in the first post.

I'm not sure what is wrong with opendrive... I tried from my PC and from work and was working well...
Try the new links.

Posted: **Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:10 am**

Yes, it could be dangerous. But the problem of making the movement in love.keypressed is that moving large corridors or places could be a bit tedious and the player would need to press the key to move a lot of times. So I decided the free movement could be better or more comfortable for moving.
But depending on what the community says, I may change it :-)

Well I know that feeling but only happen in very few rogues. I think you should implement the "run mode" along the usual behavior to halt when monsters sighted. In another way game turns a bit critical and totally dangerous in combat situations. I had too several wasted movements in peace situations.

In fact, I used the love.timer.sleep for reducing the CPU time consumption, but I don't know if it is necessare or if LÖVE itself controls this. Usually, in other languages, such as FreeBasic, it is necessary to set this so the CPU is not used completely.

It's very usual see in first Love games made the call of "wait". But after that we could probably finger count the number of people who use that command in LOVE. I'm not technically expert on this and will leave to someone more qualified but my feeling is that LOVE deals well with that. Also your game is a turn based/very low demanding, so IMHO don't worry too much with that problems.

I also thought about laptops with num. keyboard. I guess what keys could be used instead of them, not being normal numbers or function keys, that are already taken. Maybe QWERTY, but right now i'm not sure if all those keys are free.

I will definitely look into this.

You really have. My solution would be something similar and simple like this:
numeric keys = weapons
numeric keys+shift = potions
numeric keys+crtl = spells

Posted: **Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:20 pm**

Also I would thank some game difficulty feedback.
BTW I know it is too hard, and I'm not sure if it is possible to survive more than depth level 3 or 4 without fleeing all the time.
I have reduced the monsters' damages and I'm testing it.
I have also finished all potions except fire resistance.

I will test everything and release a new BETA with some bugfixes, additions and modifications.

coffee wrote:
Yes, it could be dangerous. But the problem of making the movement in love.keypressed is that moving large corridors or places could be a bit tedious and the player would need to press the key to move a lot of times. So I decided the free movement could be better or more comfortable for moving.
But depending on what the community says, I may change it :-)
Well I know that feeling but only happen in very few rogues. I think you should implement the "run mode" along the usual behavior to halt when monsters sighted. In another way game turns a bit critical and totally dangerous in combat situations. I had too several wasted movements in peace situations.

In fact, I am going to implement a switchable way to do this:
the player may choose to always run no matter what, walk cell-by-cell and run but halt when monster is seen.

coffee wrote:
In fact, I used the love.timer.sleep for reducing the CPU time consumption, but I don't know if it is necessare or if LÖVE itself controls this. Usually, in other languages, such as FreeBasic, it is necessary to set this so the CPU is not used completely.
It's very usual see in first Love games made the call of "wait". But after that we could probably finger count the number of people who use that command in LOVE. I'm not technically expert on this and will leave to someone more qualified but my feeling is that LOVE deals well with that. Also your game is a turn based/very low demanding, so IMHO don't worry too much with that problems.

The question is if every love.update cycle is done without any restrictions, then I'm not sure if LÖVE devours all CPU time to make the most update cycles possible. AT least that is how it works in FreeBasic and other languages, so you need to place a sleep or something to avoid that unlimited thing.

coffee wrote:
I also thought about laptops with num. keyboard. I guess what keys could be used instead of them, not being normal numbers or function keys, that are already taken. Maybe QWERTY, but right now i'm not sure if all those keys are free.

I will definitely look into this.
You really have. My solution would be something similar and simple like this:
numeric keys = weapons
numeric keys+shift = potions
numeric keys+crtl = spells

I have modified it.

Now it is:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 = switch weapons
F1 to F8 = cast spells
Ctrl+1 to Ctrl+5 = quaff potion

Actually, the F1 to F8 is the same keybinding as the original Witchaven PC game for casting the spells, the 1 to 9 the original to switch weapons.
Potions were selected with [ and ] keys, and then pressed RETURN to use the selected one.
But I think it's better a Ctrl+num because it's faster.

Posted: **Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:02 am**

Yes, it could be dangerous. But the problem of making the movement in love.keypressed is that moving large corridors or places could be a bit tedious and the player would need to press the key to move a lot of times. So I decided the free movement could be better or more comfortable for moving.

Haven't tried the game yet, but are you talking about key repeating? In love.load() add a line like

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	love.keyboard.setKeyRepeat(0.01, 0.2)

and see how that works for you.

Posted: **Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:30 am**

In addition to the new BETA that I'm going to release today, later one, wit lots of additions, modifications and bugfixes, I am working on an Android version.

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Rght now i am working on the control part.
I will use the touchscreen for everything, instead of a virtual keyboard.
For changing weapons and using potions and such, just press in the potions/weapons part to use or switch them.
For moving, tap on left, right, up or down part of the map.
To apply or pickup items, tap in the most center part of the map.
To save and quit, double-tap in messages log.

Also it requires heavy changes in saving and loading, since love.filesystem doesnt seem to work on android.
And not less important, a framerate enhancement. I tried it and it is a bit slow, maybe around 10FPS in my device.

stout wrote:
Yes, it could be dangerous. But the problem of making the movement in love.keypressed is that moving large corridors or places could be a bit tedious and the player would need to press the key to move a lot of times. So I decided the free movement could be better or more comfortable for moving.
Haven't tried the game yet, but are you talking about key repeating? In love.load() add a line like
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	love.keyboard.setKeyRepeat(0.01, 0.2)
and see how that works for you.

I will try it as soon as possible.
If it works as promised it could be a great change in how it works

Posted: **Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:38 am**

NEW VERSION RELEASED.

See first post for links.

IMPORTANT: WINDOWS USERS MAY ENJOY NOW A STANDALONE 32BIT EXECUTABLE. JUST DOWNLOAD AND PLAY.

Full changelog dump for 0.9BETA2:

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[Changes]
- Moved potion keys from numeric keyboard to Alt+Number
- ^Q doesn't remove your possible suspended game files.
- Removed the health recovery every 10 turns.
- Slightly reduced monsters damage
- Slightly increased corpses appearance
- Slightly increased item appearance during map generation
- Increased experience gains due to killings and gold pick ups
- Disabled "Save game" options ( Ctrl+S )
- Changed monster stats, now growing with depth level
- Changed key handling method from love.update+sleep to love.keypress+setKeyRepeat

[Additions]
- Added "load suspended game" when game starts (read next, please)
- Added launch flag: -n or --new. It starts a new game instead loading suspended game.
- Added GUI tips overly when start a new game
- Added Armors
- Added Poison, Invisibility and "Über-strength" status (read next please)
- Added Invisibility, Strength and Antidote potions
- Added interactive decorations.
- Created 5 different traps: needle, lance, pitfall, poison gas and boulderfall
- Added "search trap" command (key binding [ s ] )
- Added "switch color mode" trigger (key binding [ ^c ] ), switches from color to black and white

[Bugfixes]
- Fixed bug with scrolls BSOD'ing the app when dropped from corpses
- Fixed bug with some floor items descriptions do not showing the closing bracket
- Fixed some misspellings and some twekings to in-game help commands text

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