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Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:08 pm
by debbit
The principle is more of manners rather than morality. If a virtual machine were named CockVM, or some sort, with the word displayed prominently on its reference pages -- yeah, I'd have the same complaint.

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:16 pm
by Azhukar
debbit wrote:The principle is more of manners rather than morality. If a virtual machine were named CockVM, or some sort, with the word displayed prominently on its reference pages -- yeah, I'd have the same complaint.
Good, then you have no problem since the framework is called LOVE.

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:19 pm
by notencore
debbit wrote:The principle is more of manners rather than morality. If a virtual machine were named CockVM, or some sort, with the word displayed prominently on its reference pages -- yeah, I'd have the same complaint.
http://www.love2d.org/wiki/Common_Organ ... ntrols_Kit

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:21 pm
by debbit
Azhukar wrote: Good, then you have no problem since the framework is called LOVE.
No problem with the core framework, but I think we're talking about something broader than that.

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:28 pm
by Azhukar
debbit wrote:No problem with the core framework, but I think we're talking about something broader than that.
So you're directly addressing individual people that you have a problem with for naming their libraries in a way you don't like?

Or are you asking for website-wide censorship of naughty words?

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:51 pm
by debbit
Azhukar wrote: So you're directly addressing individual people that you have a problem with for naming their libraries in a way you don't like?

Or are you asking for website-wide censorship of naughty words?
No, and no. I'm expressing my own concerns and reactions and feelings in general agreement with the original poster. I don't know who would be in a position to censor the names of libraries on the wiki, but I wouldn't like to see that happen in the first place. I don't ultimately care if any names are changed -- Love is an awesome framework, it stands well enough on its own -- I just think it's an argument that needs to be heard and considered.

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:04 pm
by Azhukar
debbit wrote:I don't ultimately care if any names are changed
Glad you cleared that up.

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:28 pm
by debbit
Azhukar wrote: Glad you cleared that up.
Touche, I guess? Nonetheless I think the 'culture', or whatever it is that gave rise to these names, probably should change.

Re: A Community-Culture Problem With Gender

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:31 pm
by Robin
If people like to discuss library names, it might be useful to post it in the original thread (A Community-Culture Problem With Library Names), so it'll be less confusing what we're talking about. I'll rename this thread to distinguish it a bit more from the original.

Re: Gender and the LÖVE community (A Community-Culture Probl

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:04 pm
by Sheepolution
But isn't our library names the community-problem? Like that's all there is right? We have a baby police and a pig with a little heart in our header. How can the ladies not like us? Is it the mountain's mustache?