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BlackBulletIV wrote:
nevon wrote:low price of $80/h
Is that a low price!? That's awesome.
I wasn't being serious. I would never start working for someone whose work I had not seen, and who from all appearances is just an "ideas guy" who most likely has no real experience in leading a software development project. :P If I'm doing freelance work, however, I don't give a shit. And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
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nevon wrote: And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
what do you do?
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kraftman wrote:
nevon wrote: And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
what do you do?
I'm a web developer.
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nevon wrote:And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
nevon wrote:I'm a web developer.
That's comforting for me, as I charge $20/h. But I'd still say I'm a bit of a novice; I've only been in the field for a year and a half.
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BlackBulletIV wrote:
nevon wrote:And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
nevon wrote:I'm a web developer.
That's comforting for me, as I charge $20/h. But I'd still say I'm a bit of a novice; I've only been in the field for a year and a half.
(This is somewhat off topic. So if you want to discuss freelance rates further, either create a topic in the general section or send me a PM)

Depending on where you live, you're undervaluing your services a lot. I've only been doing web development professionally for a few months, and I'm making more than $20/h as a salaried developer. If I was freelancing, I'd charge between $60-80/h. Businesses are used to paying out of their nose for things. If you present yourself as cheap labor, you'll be treated as such. However, if you present yourself as a skillful provider of a complex and valuable service, they'll throw money at you (well no, they won't. You'll still have to harass them to actually get paid). Worst case scenario, you'll negotiate down to a smaller fee or simply try again with some other client.
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nevon wrote:
BlackBulletIV wrote:
nevon wrote:And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
nevon wrote:I'm a web developer.
That's comforting for me, as I charge $20/h. But I'd still say I'm a bit of a novice; I've only been in the field for a year and a half.
(This is somewhat off topic. So if you want to discuss freelance rates further, either create a topic in the general section or send me a PM)

Depending on where you live, you're undervaluing your services a lot. I've only been doing web development professionally for a few months, and I'm making more than $20/h as a salaried developer. If I was freelancing, I'd charge between $60-80/h. Businesses are used to paying out of their nose for things. If you present yourself as cheap labor, you'll be treated as such. However, if you present yourself as a skillful provider of a complex and valuable service, they'll throw money at you (well no, they won't. You'll still have to harass them to actually get paid). Worst case scenario, you'll negotiate down to a smaller fee or simply try again with some other client.
Taken the PM route. :)
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Well, i was going to hire a team to work on a project, but no one seems willing to even begin. A team starts with trust, finding a group and growing with them to put ideas onto paper, and then putting code to what has been written out. I have been in management and Network admisitration for years and this has always been the case. I hope in the future many of you will take up the idea and feel motivated enough to see it through.
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You haven't given us any concrete reason to trust you, so far. Have you completed any other group game development projects before? Or even worked on one? Or even finished a game yourself?
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Hiigara wrote:Well, i was going to hire a team to work on a project, but no one seems willing to even begin. A team starts with trust, finding a group and growing with them to put ideas onto paper, and then putting code to what has been written out. I have been in management and Network admisitration for years and this has always been the case. I hope in the future many of you will take up the idea and feel motivated enough to see it through.
I'm sure if you provided a lot more information, and built up some kind of relationship with the community, you wouldn't just have a team helping you, but they might even do it for free.
That is if the game idea is interesting enough.

This is worth taking a look at if you are serious.
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I will use that outline and build you guys a document, you can go form there
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