Don't know if it's the first but malware "discovered" the flexibilily of Lua to command a 20 MB malware/worm for gather information like take screenshots, record webcam, skype talks and a lot more. Is called Worm.Win32.Flame or Skywiper and Middle-East oriented. Sadly this always could bring to Lua some bad reputation.
http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/20819 ... nd_Answers
EDITED: More detailed info about Lua part
http://www.crysys.hu/skywiper/skywiper.pdf (check pag: 48-51)
Lua script used in malware
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If I understood correctly, the huge size (for a malware) comes from the fact that it also bundles lots of general-purpose libs; for example, a database driver. They could probably make a much smaller malware with Lua on it.
I wouldn't worry too much about the reputation. Any tool can be used for bad purposes. C didn't get bad reputation because it's used in malware. Cables don't get bad reputation because they are used to make bombs.
I wouldn't worry too much about the reputation. Any tool can be used for bad purposes. C didn't get bad reputation because it's used in malware. Cables don't get bad reputation because they are used to make bombs.
When I write def I mean function.
Re: Lua script used in malware
Yes, it's a very huge C++ exe with SQLite database and 3000 lines Lua(c) scripted that does really a lot of things. A very uncommon worm by the normal worm standards. My worry was specially because the fact of have Lua be very focused worlwide in the news about that worm. You know how rumors and misinterpretations start. Reading Kapersky blog comments you notice that there is an institute very worried that "flame lua" search leeds to their webite and they started publicy refuct connection with the worm.kikito wrote:If I understood correctly, the huge size (for a malware) comes from the fact that it also bundles lots of general-purpose libs; for example, a database driver. They could probably make a much smaller malware with Lua on it.
I wouldn't worry too much about the reputation. Any tool can be used for bad purposes. C didn't get bad reputation because it's used in malware. Cables don't get bad reputation because they are used to make bombs.
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Immediately reminded me of this: http://philosecurity.org/2009/01/12/int ... are-author
Which is about an adware developer that uses scheme.
Which is about an adware developer that uses scheme.
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Re: Lua script used in malware
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Re: Lua script used in malware
Thank you to all for the links.
From Larsen link, 1st paragraph:
Kikito, I understand what you mean about "C" don't be blamed, true. However normally if malware/trojan/virus news usually don't refer "C" as the bad thing, this time the Lua use is being a lot focused. I bet a fistful of hackers (or replace for the correct designation for people who made virus) wannabe's are looking now how to use Lua in their "creations".
Corrected link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_(malware) you missed the ")" NixolaNixola wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_(malware)
From Larsen link, 1st paragraph:
Well, was this kind of sensationalist misleading news I didn't want to see Lua involved...The most sophisticated and powerful cyberweapon uncovered to date was written in the LUA computer language, cyber security experts tell Fox News -- the same one used to make the incredibly popular Angry Birds game.
Kikito, I understand what you mean about "C" don't be blamed, true. However normally if malware/trojan/virus news usually don't refer "C" as the bad thing, this time the Lua use is being a lot focused. I bet a fistful of hackers (or replace for the correct designation for people who made virus) wannabe's are looking now how to use Lua in their "creations".
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well, it IS fox news, after allcoffee wrote:Well, was this kind of sensationalist misleading news I didn't want to see Lua involved...The most sophisticated and powerful cyberweapon uncovered to date was written in the LUA computer language, cyber security experts tell Fox News -- the same one used to make the incredibly popular Angry Birds game.
lua was probably used because it would have been unexpected, since it's apparently only rarely used for malware... although ironically it's also used for scripting network security software like nmap and wireshark
most people who hate lua hate it for other reasons (1-based, dynamic typing, not being like language xyz, etc); if anything this might give lua more exposure, or maybe it will break tiobe top 10 again lol
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