Compiling?

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Re: Compiling?

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As robin is saying, "compiled" is not equal to "closed source".

Just to give you an example, see this article about Another World. The article is a very good read, but aside from that, it illustrates the fact that even if the original source code was compiled C/C++, if someone is dedicated enough, they can decompile it.

So, as robin is saying, the simplest solution if you want to do a closed source game would be: create executables for windows, mac and linux, and then distribute them along a license that says "you are not allowed to unencrypt, decompress or otherwise mingle with the source code of this game".
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Re: Compiling?

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kikito wrote:So, as robin is saying, the simplest solution if you want to do a closed source game would be: create executables for windows, mac and linux, and then distribute them along a license that says "you are not allowed to unencrypt, decompress or otherwise mingle with the source code of this game".
In fact, if you want, you can sell the source code as well, with a license that prohibits your client from further distributing it (although regular copyright will do that for you anyway). That's closed source, but not hidden source.
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Re: Compiling?

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So basically just use some kind of license instead of making it hard for the user? That's a way of doing it :awesome:
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Re: Compiling?

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This is how a free software fanatic would read this thread:

carlman:"Hey guys, I know you don't like evilness but can I make LÖVE evil?"
lovers:"No you can't make LÖVE evil but you can threaten people who want to use it in a good way!"
qrux:"Thanks this is clever lol."

No offense to anyone I just found this hilarious in a metaphoric way ^^
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To clarify: I don't think closed source is evil by itself. I'm fortunate enough to get paid to do some open source work, but a lot of my programming job is still closed source.
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carlman wrote:Why? Even the wiki says:
"LÖVE is totally free, and can be used in anything from friendly open-source hobby projects, to evil, closed-source commercial ones."
Open- and closed-source are legal terms, not technical ones. You could have a closed-source program with or without the source hidden. Being closed-source just means that nobody is allowed to copy/modify/distribute the source.
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I've seen a game called not-tetris and it was an exe but was made in love.
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kikito wrote:To clarify: I don't think closed source is evil by itself. I'm fortunate enough to get paid to do some open source work, but a lot of my programming job is still closed source.
I just found the terminology funny in a metaphoric way. As for me I don't think either is evil as well and I'am very against enforcing moral standards on other poeple anyways. "Good" and "evil" are terms I cannot take for serious thus using them makes me giggle :D

The only moral (personal) decision I made concerning this is: When I use free software (and I mean free in every way) then I also have to give something back. This is why I want to make free software myself (not that anyone would buy it anyways lol). The reason I want to make games is passion :)
Evil_Bartek wrote:I've seen a game called not-tetris and it was an exe but was made in love.
if you mean this: http://stabyourself.net/nottetris2/
then the source is available on this site.
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and if you open the exe with a decompression utility you can clearly see its contents
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carlman wrote:I know some of you hates DRM and stuff like that, but nonetheless some people want it.
Fools. :P

Also, technically, you could build your own version of love with a decoder for your source in, so it's possible, just hard.
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