I wasn't being serious. I would never start working for someone whose work I had not seen, and who from all appearances is just an "ideas guy" who most likely has no real experience in leading a software development project. If I'm doing freelance work, however, I don't give a shit. And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).BlackBulletIV wrote:Is that a low price!? That's awesome.nevon wrote:low price of $80/h
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what do you do?nevon wrote: And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
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I'm a web developer.kraftman wrote:what do you do?nevon wrote: And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
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nevon wrote:And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).
That's comforting for me, as I charge $20/h. But I'd still say I'm a bit of a novice; I've only been in the field for a year and a half.nevon wrote:I'm a web developer.
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(This is somewhat off topic. So if you want to discuss freelance rates further, either create a topic in the general section or send me a PM)BlackBulletIV wrote:nevon wrote:And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).That's comforting for me, as I charge $20/h. But I'd still say I'm a bit of a novice; I've only been in the field for a year and a half.nevon wrote:I'm a web developer.
Depending on where you live, you're undervaluing your services a lot. I've only been doing web development professionally for a few months, and I'm making more than $20/h as a salaried developer. If I was freelancing, I'd charge between $60-80/h. Businesses are used to paying out of their nose for things. If you present yourself as cheap labor, you'll be treated as such. However, if you present yourself as a skillful provider of a complex and valuable service, they'll throw money at you (well no, they won't. You'll still have to harass them to actually get paid). Worst case scenario, you'll negotiate down to a smaller fee or simply try again with some other client.
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Taken the PM route.nevon wrote:(This is somewhat off topic. So if you want to discuss freelance rates further, either create a topic in the general section or send me a PM)BlackBulletIV wrote:nevon wrote:And freelance work at $80/h is low-average (at least in my field).That's comforting for me, as I charge $20/h. But I'd still say I'm a bit of a novice; I've only been in the field for a year and a half.nevon wrote:I'm a web developer.
Depending on where you live, you're undervaluing your services a lot. I've only been doing web development professionally for a few months, and I'm making more than $20/h as a salaried developer. If I was freelancing, I'd charge between $60-80/h. Businesses are used to paying out of their nose for things. If you present yourself as cheap labor, you'll be treated as such. However, if you present yourself as a skillful provider of a complex and valuable service, they'll throw money at you (well no, they won't. You'll still have to harass them to actually get paid). Worst case scenario, you'll negotiate down to a smaller fee or simply try again with some other client.
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Well, i was going to hire a team to work on a project, but no one seems willing to even begin. A team starts with trust, finding a group and growing with them to put ideas onto paper, and then putting code to what has been written out. I have been in management and Network admisitration for years and this has always been the case. I hope in the future many of you will take up the idea and feel motivated enough to see it through.
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You haven't given us any concrete reason to trust you, so far. Have you completed any other group game development projects before? Or even worked on one? Or even finished a game yourself?
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I'm sure if you provided a lot more information, and built up some kind of relationship with the community, you wouldn't just have a team helping you, but they might even do it for free.Hiigara wrote:Well, i was going to hire a team to work on a project, but no one seems willing to even begin. A team starts with trust, finding a group and growing with them to put ideas onto paper, and then putting code to what has been written out. I have been in management and Network admisitration for years and this has always been the case. I hope in the future many of you will take up the idea and feel motivated enough to see it through.
That is if the game idea is interesting enough.
This is worth taking a look at if you are serious.
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I will use that outline and build you guys a document, you can go form there
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