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[kikito]

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display:create ( "My Window", 800, 600, 32, true ) --Window caption ( i guess), Resolution, Color Depth, Fullscreen (or Vsync)

my_sprite = Sprite ( ) -- ????? The kind of stuff that makes you wonder, Why would i want to do this? We are doing text right?
display.viewport:add_child ( my_sprite ) -- ????

my_font = Font ( )
my_font:load_system ( "Arial", 18 ) -- Chose a font, and pick it's size

my_sprite.canvas:set_font ( my_font )
my_sprite.canvas:write ( "Hello world!" )

Wow. Talk about verbosity.

Still, I wish Ivan luck.

[bartbes]

From what I can tell by looking at it, everything seems necessary, actually, the process goes like this:

• Create a window
• Create an FBO
• Add it to the window
• Create the font object
• Set the actual font to use
• Set the font used by the FBO
• Draw text on the FBO

As opposed to:

• Draw text to the screen

[kikito]

By verbose I mean that the character-per-useful-action ratio is too big. Lots of explicit actions are so common they should be shortcutted.

I would have done something like this:

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display:create( "My Window", 800, 600, 32, true ) -- Create a default bitmap + canvas when you do this.
display:set_system_font ( "Arial", 18 ) -- Create and set. Use the default canvas. Return the font
display:write ( "Hello world!" ) -- same here: use the default canvas again.

... which is pretty much what LÖVE does.

[StoneCrow]

Scrupp seems kinda interesting ,
the forum is dead as a dodo and the manual confused me
(i read it after waking up, probably not a good idea)

i wonder why ivan didnt use love to make chains?
though well done creating his own engine and then getting his first game on steam!! aswell as to IGF

[Robin]

... which is pretty much what LÖVE does.

Although the first two lines are implicit.

[Lap]

I found Agen first and even though Love didn't have a camera system I chose it over Agen. Not having a big community was one of the main reasons.

[ivan]

I'll take a wild guess and I'll say that it is a Löve "branch" with some windows-only libraries on top.

Not at all. AGen was programmed entirely from scratch. However, we have exported several Lua modules such as Box2D, MicroPather and so on.
From what I remember, with Love you draw geometry in Lua every frame.
With AGen you create a "scene" (a tree of sprites and layers) and they persist throughout time so you don't have to redraw them each frame.
Using the canvas object you can create complicated geometry (buffered and triangulated by the engine) and share it across multiple sprites.
The latter approach allows Z-ordering and culling to be handled by the engine.
Love has it's own advantages such as a helpful community of developers.
Also, Love's interface is closer to the rendering hardware so you can do some fancy rendering stuff that would be slower in AGen.

i wonder why ivan didnt use love to make chains?

We actually started work on the engine before we had heard about Love.
Thanks anyways though, we are currently working on a new title that we hope will be playable for this year's IGF (Oct 18th).

[thelinx]

From what I remember, with Love you draw geometry in Lua every frame.
With AGen you create a "scene" (a tree of sprites and layers) and they persist throughout time so you don't have to redraw them each frame.

Hey, 0.7.0 has framebuffers!

Fraaammmee buffeerrss!

[Chief]

"supports the playback of MPEG-1 movies", Me like.

Love still wins tho'

[Jasoco]

MPEG-1? What the heck is that? I've never seen an MPEG-1. Even DVD's and TV broadcasts are MPEG-2.

I wouldn't mind if Löve could play Vorbis videos like it can play OGG audio.