A Community-Culture Problem With Library Names

[Robin]

It was a joke/pun/whatever (I miss the right word for it right now).

"Sarcastic dismissal" is the phrase you're looking for.

[szensk]

"Sarcastic dismissal" is the phrase you're looking for.

The correct way to dismiss the inane.

To those offended by a name I say go forth and fork the free löving libraries. If you must, create an issue suggesting it be default. After and before, it's out of your hands.

[Zarty55]

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Where's the satire? Must have missed it and don't want to reread the thread.

Oh, sorry, I'm not from a country that has english as a main language. Thank you for showing in practice what I was trying to say instead of being nice and correcting me or trying to understand what I was actually trying to say

[Azhukar]

I'm not from a country that has english as a main language.

We have that in common, does that mean I can crash a discussion and attempt to moderate it without any criticism received?

[Zarty55]

I'm not from a country that has english as a main language.

We have that in common, does that mean I can crash a discussion and attempt to moderate it without any criticism received?

No, it doesn't. But you criticized my grammar. Nevertheless I seriously don't want to get to "meta-discussion", sorry about being kinda rude. Let's get back to the original topic.

[Puzzlem00n]

While I do have some personal issues with many of the library names, I'm willing to accept that the whole thing is pretty trivial. I don't even get most of the innuendos until someone else points them out, anyway. (I'm 15, for the record.)

I suggest that someone makes a list of alternate-names for the "offending" libraries that people who don't like the originals can use. We'll then see what catches on. (Hopefully it wouldn't cause too much conflict.)

I'm particularly interested in the comments here on Anglo-American culture. Personally, I was glad to be in the dark about sexual stuff when I was younger, and I wish violence was less censored, but I realize that it's hard to observe a system from the inside without bias. The military theory is particularly disturbing.

I'm also interested in what you have to say about women in the community, Robin. I still don't comprehend what possesses people to push out another gender as default behavior. That wasn't an insult, it's just legitimately confusing. Definitely make that thread.

I feel like everyone's made good points here, and there's probably not much more to be said, unless anyone hasn't run out of insults yet. So I'm expecting this thread to die soon before being resurrected under a new title in a year.

[veethree]

This thread was already dead, But doctory started a new one, And i stupidly linked to this one. So i guess i'm at least partially responsible for it's resurrection. Sorry.

I really don't think this discussion needs to go on, And we should just put it on the back burner until inevitably someone brings it up again. Maybe then the communities general stance on the matter will have changed.

[Puzzlem00n]

What the... Oh man. I'm really sorry, for some reason I thought this was recent... What the heck... I could have sworn the dates weren't old. Drat, now I'm that guy!

EDIT: Oh, wait, they aren't old, now I was looking at the join dates, haha. What on earth is going on?

EDIT 2: Ah, okay, I see what you mean. I will shut up starting now!

[Robin]

I'm also interested in what you have to say about women in the community, Robin. I still don't comprehend what possesses people to push out another gender as default behavior. That wasn't an insult, it's just legitimately confusing. Definitely make that thread.

I did make that thread. Since I have no desire to start this conversation again right now, I won't link it, but you can find it in the General forum if you look for threads with "Gender" in the title. You'll also find jjmafiae's gender survey, made in response to the gender thread I started.

My intention is to come to the community with an actionable proposal on that topic in a few months. Until that time, I have nothing to say to this community about or related to gender.

[murks]

Just for the record, just yesterday, after working with Quickie, seeing that my colleague uses AnAL and discovering that there's a whole bunch of similarly named libraries I thought that this is quite funny and a nice little joke. I also think that it's rather natural for things like that to happen with a project called löve.
If someone is offended he can just fork the whole thing and call it 'free löve'

I have to seriously question my sanity when I read that django replaces all occurences of master and slave with leader and follower: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/22667

If you change names every time someone feels offended by something you can't name anything. I could argue that find 'leader follower' far more offensive than 'master slave', but I'm from a different cultural background (eg. not US, coincientally, this seems to be where this insanity comes from). This would mean they can't call it 'leader follower' either. Don't even start with stuff like that, offend people, please!