Low-Pass Filter?

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gamebabu
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Low-Pass Filter?

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Hey guys! I'm fairly new to these forums, but you guys have actually helped me out a lot!
There's some great community documentation of problems in here. It's gotten me out a snag a great many times.

But I've encountered a problem that I can not find a clean solution for.

My partner who is doing the audio for my game has requested a low-pass filter for better sound design.
I've looked and looked, but I can not seem to find anything on how this may be done.

I'm not the greatest programmer when it comes to portability, and am afraid to modify the love source to add this functionality.

Is there no other way?

Thank you for taking the time to read this!

P.S. If I've broken any rules with this topic, I apologize. I read through it, and it seems like this kind of problem is okay.. :o:
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Re: Low-Pass Filter?

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I think you should rather do that with .dll and .so than with Lua, since it's not exactly up to the task.

LP filter is done pretty simple: for input sample, you multiply it by smoothing factor and add to it multiple of previous output sample by inverted factor.

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local a = samplerate / ( factor + samplerate )
local a1 = 1 - a
output[ 1 ] = input[ 1 ]
for i = 2, #input do 
    output[ i ] = a * input[ i ] + a1 * output[ i - 1 ] 
end
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Re: Low-Pass Filter?

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Thank you for taking the time to respond!

..This might be slightly over my head.

I haven't done much work with .dll and .so, nor really much work with audio in general.

If I were to go down this path as you have suggested, do you think you could guide me a bit more along the way?
This is something head scratchingly difficult for me, and your help would be really appreciated!

I have two main questions :oops:
Would I need to write this LP filter in C?
With this additional library, how would I ensure portability and go about making the executables for Linux, Mac, and Windows?

I apologize if this is asking for too much. I just really don't know where to start with this. :death:
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Re: Low-Pass Filter?

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The easiest method is to use LPF and friends in your DAW, which will (should) produce higher quality results. If you need to dynamically phase between a sound at different envelope frequencies then try experimenting with just that - phase 2 or more audio tracks in your game (one clean, one enveloped).
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Re: Low-Pass Filter?

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As long as your library only contains math code, there won't be any compatibility issues. But I second what Lafolie said, you should prefer pre-render to dynamic rendering when possible. As for audio quality, you will most likely not notice any difference; pre-render or dymanic, same algorithm, the only difference is interpolation, multisampling, more expensive computations, etc. that result in slightly higher quality for prerendered stuff, in cost of great (relative) rendering time. It's like comparing quality of the same 3d scene (same models, same textures, etc) rendered real-time with some performance tradeoffs like FXAA instead of MSAA, against full-blown high quality software 3d pre-render.
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Re: Low-Pass Filter?

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Hmm, I've given it a lot of thought, and this alternative solution might be what we end up using.
It's certainly a lot easier to implement.

Thank you guys!

I'll keep looking to see if an LPF would be feasible for me, just to see what we could do with it. My partner was telling me about using the low pass gradually as the player gets nearer and farther from certain things. It may not be the same sound quality as a DAW's LPF, but I can definitely see how it would be more immersive..

I did some more searching and found this libary: https://github.com/graue/luasynth
But, I have no idea on how I would go about integrating it with LÖVE.
Still, thanks you for the help guys. I'll keep fiddling from time to time to see if I can make it work.
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Re: Low-Pass Filter?

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I don't think you should use a lowpass filter for that unless you expect distances of order of several miles.
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